Capital Clean Energy Carriers Corp. Price & Performance (CCEC)

In our views or expectations expectations to conform to actual results or otherwise. We make no prediction or statement about the performance of our common shares I would now like to hand over the call to your speaker today. Mr. Brian Gallier, Thank you. Good morning, afternoons, wherever you are, and thanks for joining the Capital Clean Energy Carriers Q4 twenty twenty four earnings call.

As a reminder, we'll be referring to the supporting slides available on our website as we go through today's presentation. So let's start with the highlights on Slide three. After a very busy period for the company during 2024, the fourth quarter was more standard and routine. The company generated net income of $20,800,000 from continuing operations. From this, a dividend of $0.15 per share has been declared. Of the five container vessels agreed to be sold, the company completed the sale of three of these within the quarter one in January 2025, while the last one is expected to be delivered in early March to its new owners. As discussed on our last call, we remain focused on improving the liquidity in our share and have initiated an ATM program to help us address that issue. We continue to work hard to improve and build the company profile, and are pleased that we now have increased research coverage to seven analysts That's up from three this time last year, and we look forward to delivering further initiatives in our capital market engagement during the year. We know and appreciate that this will take time, but we are aware that this is necessary to provide the group with a trading currency in the future and further strategic optionality.

The key event during the quarter was the challenging LNG spot market background, which not only was absent its usual winter freight rally, but also saw rates hit multiyear lows, driven by an oversupply of vessels and lower ton mile trading patterns. Capital clean energy carriers is largely insulated from these short term headwinds but we believe there will be a silver lining to this market in terms of a rationalization of the Our new Head of Commercial, Nikos Chubodakis, will run through this in detail much later. With that, I'll hand it over to our Chief Executive, Jerry Kalajortis, to run through the financials. Thank you, Brian. And good morning and or good afternoon, everybody. As you said, this was a more routine quarter for SCC. Turning to the financial on Slide five, profit from continuing operations reached $20,800,000 We derived further $72,200,000 in one off gains quarter from completing the sale of three out of the five container vessels we agreed to sell last quarter. We will continue to be opportunistic about the sale of the three remaining container vessels as these are modern eco vessels with long term cash flow attached. [indiscernible] We declared a dividend of $0.15 for the quarter.

Think that is a good opportunity to reflect on what we have delivered since the company's listing on NASDAQ in 02/2007.

This quarter is the seventy first consecutive quarter that the In total, the company has returned its current market cap. Over $1,000,000,000 back to shareholders in cash dividends and shares. Returning value to our shareholders is in our DNA and we look forward for the company to add further to track record going forward as our fleet under construction is delivered in 2026 and 2027.

Now the quarter showed operating income from continuing operations of $20,800,000 up from $1,100,000 during the comparative quarter last year. Interest charges rose as the fleet increased in size to $36,700,000 compared to 25,800,000.0 during the same quarter last year.

At the same time interest charges were lower by approximately reflecting the softening of software.

Now turning to Slide six, we see that our balance continues to grow with the addition of new vessels and our asset base as of year end twenty twenty four was over $1,000,000,000 higher than the same period last year. Also, our leverage ratio has improved quarter on quarter, reflecting improved cash generation on the back of the net cash proceeds generated from the sale of three out of the five container vessels we agreed to sell back in September.

Importantly, our net leverage fell below 50% at the year end. Expect our capital base to consolidate now for a period as we have no delivery schedule [indiscernible] early twenty twenty six.

Turning now to the next slide, Slide seven.

On Slide seven, you can see a revenue backlog of $2,500,000,000 remaining highly diversified with no counterparty having more than 20% share. $2,200,000,000 of this backlog is expected to come from our LNG assets. Our remaining charter duration is at seven years, and we expect to add to the strength as we start again taking deliveries of our newbuilds in 2026 onwards and fixing long term employment for these assets.

Before moving now to Slide nine and our LNG market [indiscernible] would like to introduce our new Chief Commercial Officer, Nicolas Pepe Padakis. Who will run through these slides and be available to answer your questions at the end of the call. Nikos joins us from the LNG Trading side at Hartree Partners, building on a decade embedded in various roles in the LNG sector. Welcome, Nicolas. And over to you.

Thank you, Jerry, and afternoon, everybody. Thank you for inviting me to speak on this call. I would like to start with Slide nine in the presentation, and I would like to briefly talk about the current state of the LNG freight market. The reasons that led to this market and our view of how the market will develop in the future.

Despite the LNG demand reaching its seasonal peak in the fourth quarter and global gas prices reaching a multi month high, LNG freight market remained under pressure dropping to all time seasonal lows. This week, and reduction in ton mile demand for LNG carriers lifting U. S. Cargoes a situation which ramped up throughout the year, but reached its peak in Q4. On the supply side, delays of certain liquefaction projects left the vessels that were delivering against those projects exposed with the spot and shorter markets, thus adding significant pressure on charter rate for those periods. Specifically, throughout 2024, the LNG Carder fleet grew by 62 ships whereas global LNG trade grew marginally by just around 1.7% to limited project start ups mainly from The U. S. The delivery ramp of our vessels throughout the year was significant starting with 12 deliveries in the first quarter and ending with 23 deliveries by the fourth quarter. On the demand side, the weakness in the JKMTF spread driven by subdued demand in Asia and stronger than expected demand in Europe on the back of supply outages and colder weather, led to an erosion in ton mile demand and a further increase in the supply of vessels in the Atlantic base The combination of the above led to a significant drop in short term charter rates in Q4 evident in Slide nine, What is also demonstrated in the same chart however is that this the weakness in the short term markets, rates for longer periods display greater resilience on the back of stronger fundamentals starting from the second half of the decade.

Long term charter rates still command a significant premium compared to short term rates with the latest fixture for a period of over ten years for a more than two stroke vessel in 2027 reported close to $90,000 per day.

Long term rates are supported by limited availability of new buildings, the expectation that demand for those new buildings will outpace supply and well as high new building prices both for the ships on the water, but also for any new orders. Turning to Slide 10. [indiscernible] As it's indicated in the chart, the order book comprises of three seventeen vessels. Of those, only 18 including our ships, [indiscernible] representing a very low ratio of just 6% of open new buildings to total order book.

The same time, as mentioned, newbuilding prices remained almost at all time highs around $260,000,000 for a new order preventing a surge of speculative orders. I keep out of our thesis, however, what happens to the older technology vessels, which is covered in Slide 11. The current weakness in the spot and short term market is expected to accelerate the commercial removal of older smaller and less efficient vessels approaches that increasing pace last year with a record high of eight older steam turbine vessels being sold for scrap. Currently, around 200 vessels, which is approximately 32% of the current fleet are olders steam turbine vessels. It is clear from the chart on the left hand side that the redelivery profile of those ships is ramping up while the long term charters under which most of these vessels operate not expected to be renewed for a combination of commercial environmental reasons. 2025, more than half of the steam fleet is around 120 vessels are still operating under long term charters. However, this number is expected to drop to just 36 ships by 02/1930. Given the current age profile of the steam fleet and the rough upcoming fourth and fifth special surveys, a large portion of these vessels is expected to retire or possibly sold for alternative use.

Covers the supply side on LNG shipping and I would like now to turn to the demand side with Slide 13. [indiscernible] was flat year on year in 2024, an incremental of 200,000,000 tons per annum of LNG liquefaction capacity that has taken FID and is currently under construction is expected to come online between 2025 and 02/1930. Along with an additional approximately 150,000,000 to 170,000,000 tons which are awaiting regulatory and investment approvals. Approvals that are only expected to be accelerated under the new U. S. Administration. As a result, the growth in global energy supply stemming from an increase in liquefaction capacity later this decade suggests that demand for LNG caries is expected to outpace counts supply over the coming years and lead to a tightening market from 2026 or 2027 onwards. In summary, when looking further ahead, the long term prospects for modern energy carriers remain robust especially for state of the art later generation vessels such as those controlled by CCEC The combination of removals of older technology ships and the increase in liquefaction capacity between 2025 and 02/1930 provides fertile ground for modern LNG cardias demand for those vessels is expected to exceed supply in Our charter profile looking at Slide 14, remains robust solid with $2,200,000,000 of revenue backlog all with blue chip counterparties, where we have a long and strong [indiscernible] Looking at our open positions and in terms of strategy, we will continue to have an opportunistic approach and look to diversify our open positions both in terms of when we fix and for how long we fix for.

We continue to seek long term employment for some of our open positions 2026 and 2027, we we also see value in the midterm space, let's say three to five years, as we aim to stagger and see value in spreading and diversifying our delivery profile. That concludes the slides on the LNG market and I will now pass the floor back to Jerry. Thank you, Nicolas.

So Slide 16 looks at our fleet today and the growth we have in place with 16 more vessels scheduled to join the company by 2027. Our M and A fleet on the water will be augmented by six new vessels growing the core LNG fleet by 50% the third quarter of twenty twenty seven. 10 midsized gas carriers will be on the water by that final LNG carrier delivery reflecting in full our pivot towards the gas transportation and solution For the moment, we still retain three containers, which have long term employment in place. For the next eight years with options to extend by up to further six years beyond that. These vessels give us strategic optionality, which we will consider going forward. Nikos outlined in his remarks, there are strong grounds to see the LNG market rebalancing sometime 2026 onwards.

The current short term freight rate headwinds should, as he illustrated, generate a vessel supply response as all the technology vessels exit the fleet. Importantly, the company will have a very young fleet delivering the lowest unit freight cost possible to take to our customers with the lowest environmental footprint both critical aspects for success given the commercial requirements and the emerging regulatory environment it comes to carbon and methane emissions. So to conclude and before we take questions, please turn to the summary slide number 17. In short, Capital clean energy carriers expected to control the largest LNG to stroke carrier fleet available to investors upon delivery in addition to the other 10 multi gas vessels. Company has considerable contract coverage of seven years already and strong visibility on cash flows. While we believe that we have an advantage over many of our peers, in only being invested in the latest gas technology vessels with almost all having dual fuel capabilities. Finally, we will continue our endeavors to raise the public profile of the company and its trading liquidity. As Brian pointed out at the beginning of the call, we have undertaken a number of initiatives that have started bearing fruit.

Including the increased analyst coverage and wider engagement with investor community, and expect also the ATM to help incrementally in that direction. Appreciate, of course, that building our profile will take time, but we're pleased and proud of the progress we have made in just twelve months and look forward to making further gains on our objectives going forward. With that, will hand it back to the operator for Q and A. Thank you for your attention. Thank you. And our first question comes from the line of Liam Burke with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Yes. Thank you. Hi, Jerry. How are you? Hi, Liam. I'm good. How are you? Good. Thank you. With the rates being I mean at the bottom, I mean, let's put it mildly, are there any assets available that you'd be interested in looking at or are you happy with the six new builds that you have on order?

Interestingly enough, when you look at the fixtures that you see in this you say, quite challenging spot market. I'm not sure if there is a single one that is really being concluded, I mean, for two stroke vessels by directly by owners. The overwhelming majority of these fixtures are relets or effectively vessels that charters have chartered for long term charters. And because of the delay in certain projects, they don't have the volume, so they are redeploying them in the market. So what I'm trying to say with this is that it's we don't have yet owners and possibly we won't see it suffering to the extent that you will see distress assets in the market. That's at least for two stroke vessels. I think TFTe's and potentially steam turbine vessel is another story. And at the same time, newbuilding prices have been quite steady. If anything, we have seen a data point, which is not very different from what we have seen [indiscernible] $55,000,000 to $260,000,000 mark. And we are hearing also of a number of projects that are out there and potentially will start a new round of of ordering for some projects due for 2028 and 2029.

So, shipyards will not be inclined to lower their prices. So if there are assets out there that become increasingly interest in terms of price or if we see again new building prices come down, of course, we would be interested to look at it. But there is no indication of this just yet.

Great.

Thank you. And on the six new builds, have you started discussions with potential shippers on longer term charters or long term charters. Or do you anticipate having to operate in the spot market when it looks like between recycling and new production coming online, they do just fine.

Let me pass this question on to Nicolas who's probably best to answer it. Hi, and thank you for this question. And it's a reasonable question to ask. What we can say about this is that there have been multiple discussions and fixtures for medium to long term charters over the last few months.

And why the challenging spot and short term charter market has resulted in weaker sentiment, arguably some price erosion We don't see that happening in the long term space.

As mentioned previously, the latest charter for a ten year plus is still in the $90,000 per day range.

We don't see that situation changing for 2026 and 2027 onwards.

We are under no pressure to give in on pricing and with new deliveries being twelve or so months away, continue to engage with charterbers and hopefully we'll have more to report going forward. For us, it still remains very important to stagger our charter expirations and our redelivery profile. And Potelixinay also time some of these redeliveries towards the end of the decade where we see the market potentially being very tight. We're looking at everything, both mid term and long term charters and we want to diversify what we're trying to do but we hope to share more with you next few months. Great. Thank you, Nikos. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Liam.

And the next question comes from the line of Alexander Bidwell Good afternoon. Thanks for the time.

Hi, Alex.

Taking a quick look at the liquid CO2 carriers, Can you provide any update on the progress with commercial discussions for those assets? Sure.

Here, I think we went over if you want, the more long term fundamentals of that business in the previous quarter. But overall, as we have said in the past, these vessels are due for delivery in 2026, almost spread across the quarters. I think given the trajectory of the CCUS projects that will need shipping, which is from mostly from 2028, 2029 onwards. And as we have said in the past, the idea is that these vessels being multi gas carriers will be deployed in the short to medium term market, let's say, in the LPG and ammonia business. Actually, we see quite bit of interest because in the Handysize LPG ammonia segment, which is where these ships belong to 22,000 cubic segment, there is a very small order book. I mean, in addition to our ships, there's another four, five ships that are in order. And it tends to be quite an aged fleet profile.

So I think you should expect that as these vessels come closer to delivering, we will have we will deploy them in that business. We are also discussing some long term business with some charters. Some of them they find quite interesting the flexibility of these assets. So So the ability to do ammonia in the early years and then seamlessly go into the Liquid Suez two business. And there are quite a few energy companies that are across this type of business. So the production of blue and green ammonia as well as into CCUS projects. So I think over the next few months, but especially closer to deliveries, so towards the end of the year, we will have more news on unemployment.

All right. Thank you for the detail there. And just a quick follow-up, looking at the container vessels, Can you give a general sense of the S and P market at the moment? What sort of appetite are you seeing for those three remaining assets?

Continue market remains quite robust, both in terms of asset values as well as in terms of earnings. And newbuilding prices, which is an overall pattern also remained quite high. So today, the replacement value of these assets will be closer to €150,000,000 Of course, they are impaired, so to say, there is a cap on their evaluation because of the long term charter rate. So this is more of a cash flow, if you want, exercise given also that there is a number of two year options after the end of the term period, which is an average to nine years depending on the ship. So I think demand is quite robust. The movement of interest rates though probably is more correlated with the valuation of these vessels than actually the underlying container assets. We are quite opportunistic in the sense that if we see a good bid, we will look to take it. Otherwise, we are also happy to stay with this long term cash flow underlying the gas business All right. Thank you for the additional color there. That's all from my side. I'll turn it back over. Thank you guys. Thank you, Alex. And the next question comes from the line of Omar Nokka Jefferies, please proceed.

Thank you. Guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for the update. Hi, Jerry. I just wanted to ask maybe just a couple of questions perhaps on the market just to get a bit more kind of understanding because clearly LNG spot rates, which you're not exposed, but they've come off quite a bit. And it's been like that for perhaps over the past four or five months, We know there's oversupply with the delivery of the new buildings ahead of project start ups. Could you maybe just talk a little bit about what you're actually seeing in the spot market? Is it just simply too many best and not enough cargo to spread around. Or is the spot market itself just not seeing any action?

Thank you, Omar. I think I'll let Nicolas take the difficult questions. Hold on.

Hi, Omar. Thank you for this question. It's a very reasonable one in this market. The situation right now can be summarized by two main factors. One is an increase in supply as you very accurately stated, there's been many projects that were supposed to deliver in 2024 and were delayed well into 2025 or even 2026, Golden Pass being one of them with around 18,000,000 tons of production, which equates to demand for around 30 ships. That's just one example. There are three or four more projects that were delayed for the same period. The as I mentioned during the presentation, [indiscernible] narrowing of the Drakam TTF spread led to All of those vessels that Jerry referred to being the relets targeting Europe as the best value destination, which led to a further increase of supply of vessels in the Atlantic Basin. What is more, looking down the forward curve for JKM and TTS, that spread remains to be or that ARB remains to be shot and vessels pointing to Europe. So that gives the charters and the subletters the confidence to look to charter the vessels for shorter periods, multi month or one year charters and then happy to play the spot market.

Now in terms of activity from the cargo side, there has been production and there have been FOB discussion and volumes. [indiscernible] all those fixtures just happen at low rates because there's an oversupply of ships. Your question sorry, your question, the first part was why the market in the state, which it is?

This is a summary, but did you follow-up with when do we expect this to improve or how do we expect [indiscernible] Capital ball question. Yes, it wouldn't hurt to maybe get a sense from that. It sounds like [indiscernible] The timing of the correction is not really a crystal ball, it's just it depends on many things. But the reasons that will drive correction are very clear and again, as mentioned in the presentation, they come down to two main factors.

One is the fact that a third of the LNG carrier fleet right now, which are the steam ships, not survive in this environment.

Even if you seek for alternative solutions like let's say FSR project, FSRU conversions or even laying up this is still a market in which the vessels will suffer for far too long, let's say, multi month simply have to see scrapping. The ramping up of scrapping and how quickly those vessels will be removed is a bit of a crystal ball, but our view is that at least 80 to 100 ships will be removed in the next three to four years.

That's one. That's a supply side reaction, right?

Now we have the demand side reaction, which happens from 2026, 2027 onwards with the new projects coming online, we what we see by 02/1930 based on current FIDs and projects under construction another 200,000,000 tons will hit the water, that's demand for approximately three fifty ships. [indiscernible] If we account into that projects that are closed and have SPAs and are pending some regulatory approvals, which will be facilitated by the Trump administration. We could easily see another 170,000,000 tons on top of those 200.

So it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when the market is correct.

And our view is that [indiscernible] mid-twenty twenty seven, we should see that inflection point.

I hope that answers your question. It does. Thank you.

And then maybe just as a Follow-up, I think Liam had asked this before just in terms of the new buildings that you have as those deliver and if we're still in a soft market where you need to put them into spot trading, Do you have the capability to do so in house? Is there anything that you need to do in order to to do that or are you good to go?

From that result?

We are 100% good to go.

If we needed to do that, but that is not our strategy and we would not have to do that. [indiscernible] we are trying to do and there are currently active discussions for which I cannot go into too much details [indiscernible] what we're trying to do is, as mentioned before, diversify our redelivery profile into periods that we expect the market to be very tight. For example, let's say we have these new buildings in 2026, we look at anything from fifteen year time charters to three or four year time charters. If the latter takes place, then we take the vessels back in 2029 or 02/1930 where we see a significant supply deficit compared to the demand for LNG carriers, whereas if the former is the case, then we are still looking at very healthy time charter rates, which are around $90,000 plus per day. So there is very low probability we would enter the spot market with those ships. We won't have to and we will announce as the months progress. We have time Indeed. Okay, very good. Thank you for that. That's helpful color. Pass it over. Thank you.

Operator, it looks like there are no additional questions. So I would like to thank everybody for joining today's call. I'm sorry, Joe. We do have one more question from Simmons. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] Good afternoon. You for taking my questions. Most has already been covered. [indiscernible] I wanted to ask a question on the modeling side. The amount of fixed debt declined a bit quarter over quarter Was it attributable to the sale of the container ships And if so, should we expect an additional decline in Q1? The vessels that we sold, the 5,000 TEU vessels that we sold, they had no additional debt. So any decline in debt at you see is from scheduled debt amortization.

Makes sense. [indiscernible] secondly, is there any potential for upsized refinancings going forward should you need additional liquidity for upcoming opportunities? So what we are looking to do and this is and we are quite advanced in that is to have also the ability to take pre delivery for financing for certain of our new builds Of course, with $350,000,000 in the kitty already plus we expect sorry, from the fifth vessel, we are obviously [indiscernible] liquid position. But having this pre delivery finance option, it could be an additional liquidity lever for, as you say, potentially new opportunities? And it could be quite significant, by the way. Thanks for the color.

Makes sense.

Of course, thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Jay Calagioertas closing comments.

Again, thank you all for joining us today.

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Enjoy the rest of your day.