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On today's call, we will review our company and segment financial highlights, and provide full year 2025 guidance. For today's Q and A session, ask that each caller keep to one question and one follow-up to allow time for other participants. At this time, will turn the call over to Vicundje. Thanks, Matthew, and good morning to all.

Starting on Slide three, the key to our financial durability is our economic growth engine. Which helped us to deliver outperformance in 2024 with double digit adjusted EPS growth and strong free cash flow margin, despite a very dynamic global market. [indiscernible] towards 2025, we see continued growth underpinned by organic investments, and plenty of runway for our inorganic growth with over 200 active targets in the funnel. And we also expect strong operational execution through the use of our competitive Most importantly, I want to thank all of our employees around the world for their contribution and always thinking and acting like owners of the company. On Slide four, we're highlighting the differentiated company results delivered through our economic growth engine. With IRX underpinned by our innovative employee ownership model, we have an increasingly durable financial profile with over 20,000 employees working towards our company's common goals. As shown on the page, over the cycle, we have either delivered or output outperformed our long term Investor Day targets across all targets. On Slide five, continue to be a leader in sustainability. Delivering financial performance while also doing good for the planet our community and our employees. On the left hand side of the page, for the third year in a row, we were named to the Dow Jones Best in Class Indices.

Ranking number one in our industry and finishing in the top 1% of the corporate sustainability assessment. Also for the second year in a row, Ingersoll Rand was named to the A List for our commitment to global environmental leadership by CDP, CDP's annual environmental disclosure and scoring process is globally recognized as the gold standard for corporate transparency. As you can see on the right hand side of the page, with the ownership equity grants provided, and through the performance of the company to date, we have created approximately $700,000,000 of incremental wells for our employees. We strongly believe that the combination of our ownership mindset and creating a great place to work is a true catalyst for long term performance. Moving to the next page, Since the merger with Ingersoll Rand in 2020, we have transformed the company into a premier growth compounder. We reduced cyclicality through divesting our Clubcard and HPS businesses and we have reinvested approximately $5,400,000,000 into accretive acquisitions focused on high growth sustainable end markets. Through this transformation, in just three years, we have nearly doubled our total addressable market both through acquisitions and with continued organic investments in product and service innovation. We believe that we're very uniquely positioned to grow our market share within the $67,000,000,000 highly fragmented market through the combination of our innovative product portfolio multi channel, multi brand strategy and robust commercial and operational footprint which is well positioned for the current dynamic macro environment.

On the right hand side of the page, I want to highlight that our M and A strategy remains unchanged. And that we will continue to be disciplined in our approach for M and A execution. Creating shareholder value while further positioning ourselves in highly attractive end markets. Turning to Slide seven, continue to diversify our products and portfolios into high growth sustainable end markets. And have expanded our total addressable market by approximately $12,000,000,000 in 2024. Acquired approximately $625,000,000 in annualized revenue from 18 acquisitions at less than 14 times pre synergy adjusted EBITDA multiple purchase. And currently, we have seven additional transactions at the LOI stage as shown on the right hand side of the page. Since our Q3 earnings call, we have closed on six companies, including channel acquisitions. We have added four new companies to the LOI stage and abandoned one transaction.

Our M and A funnel remains strong with over 200 companies currently and we expect to acquire an additional 405 basis points of annualized inorganic revenue in 2025 which will be incremental to our current guidance outlined later in this deck, On the next slide, Pattern already closed on multiple transactions this year we're off to a strong start to achieving our 2025 annualized inorganic revenue acquired target. On this page, we're highlighting three acquisitions which are highly aligned to our M and A strategy. Bolt on in nature these acquisitions expand our capabilities in core technologies focused in high growth sustainable end markets. And with an average of less than 10 times pre synergy adjusted EBITDA we continue to demonstrate our disciplined approach M and A and expect to meet a mid teens ROICEO on average for these deals by the end of the third year of ownership. I will now turn the presentation over to Vic. To provide an update on our Q4 and full year 2024 financial performance. Thanks Vicente. Starting on Slide nine, we delivered strong results through our competitive differentiator, IRX. Despite a very dynamic global market. Total company orders and revenue improved sequentially both of which finished largely in line with expectations.

In our underpenetrated markets, which include Latin America, The Middle East, India, and APAC excluding China we saw robust growth in both orders and revenue. These results underscore the focused investments for growth we continue to make in these markets. The company delivered third quarter adjusted EBITDA of $532,000,000 a 6% year over year improvement and near record adjusted EBITDA margin of 28% a 50 basis point year over year improvement driven predominantly through gross margin expansion. Adjusted earnings per share was $0.84 for the quarter, and $3.29 for the full year. We continue to deliver on our long term Investor Day targets of double digit EPS growth finishing up 11% for the full year compared to 2023. [indiscernible] Free cash flow for the quarter was $491,000,000 delivering a robust 26% free cash flow margin in the quarter.

Total liquidity was $4,100,000,000 with $1,500,000,000 of cash on hand quarter end, demonstrating the tremendous strength of our balance sheet. Turning to Slide 10, for the total company, Q4 orders were up 8% and revenue increased by 4%. Book to bill for the quarter was 0.95 finishing in line with our previous guidance of above one time in the first half and below one time in the second half. Total company adjusted EBITDA increased 6% from the prior year expanding margin 50 basis points year over year.

With corporate costs coming in at $32,000,000 for the quarter, which is down $15,000,000 year over year in large part to management incentive costs. Finally, adjusted EPS for the quarter finished $0.84 share including a Q4 adjusted tax rate of 23.4%. [indiscernible] On Slide 11, for the full year, total company orders were up 4% and revenue increased [indiscernible] Book to bill finished the year at 0.98 finished largely in line with expectations. Total company adjusted EBITDA increased 13% year over year with adjusted EBITDA margin finishing at record levels of 27.9% up 190 basis points from the prior year. Corporate costs finished the year at approximately $155,000,000 which is down $18,000,000 year over year. The year over year declines to reduction in management incentive costs as compared to the prior year.

Finally, full year adjusted EPS finished at $3.29 share.

Up 11% year over year with a full year adjusted tax rate On the next slide, free cash flow for the quarter was $491,000,000 including CapEx, which totaled $35,000,000 Total company liquidity now stands at $4,100,000,000 based on approximately $1,500,000,000 of cash and $2,600,000,000 of availability on our revolving credit facility. As Vicente mentioned earlier, we are targeting 400 to 500 basis points of annualized inorganic revenue acquired in 2025 and still have seven additional transactions currently under LOI. With over 200 companies currently in the funnel and our continued strength in free cash flow generation, we are confident in our ability to deliver on this target. Leverage for the quarter was 1.6 turns which was a one turn increase year over year and a 0.1 turn improvement sequentially versus Q3. As a reminder, the year over year increase in leverage was driven primarily due to the purchase of IOC Dover earlier in 2024. Specifically within the quarter, cash outflows included $200,000,000 deployed to M and A, as well as $71,000,000 returned to shareholders through $63,000,000 in share repurchases and $8,000,000 for our dividend payment. I will now turn the call back to Vicente to discuss our segment results. Thanks, Jake.

Slide 15, fourth quarter orders for ITS finished up 3% year over year and were approximately flat organically. Excluding the impact of China and the power tools and lifting business, Q4 organic quarters grew low single digits. Revenue finished down low single digits organically with the largest impact coming from our China business. Our ITS segment delivered solid year over year adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of 30 basis points on top of near record level margin from the prior year. For the full year, adjusted EBITDA margin finished at a record level of 30.2%, already meeting our 2027 targets three years ahead of schedule. Moving to the product line highlights, compressor orders were up low single digits industrial vacuum and blower orders were up mid teens and power tools and lifting orders were down mid single digits. Highlighted here on our innovation in action is our new PureAir oil free compressor. This product is a great example of Ingersoll Rand's multi channel, multi brand providing an innovative digitally enabled sustainable solution with a market leading 14% energy efficiency improvement. With 100% oil less technology, this product is perfect for applications which require FDA approval. Turning to Slide 14, orders in PST were up 29% and revenue finished 24% year over year largely driven by M and A. Fourth quarter organic orders finished slightly down year over year.

However, is important to note that we did see low single digit organic order growth ex PST delivered adjusted EBITDA of $107,000,000 which was up approximately 14% year over year with a margin of 27.6%. The year over year decline in Q4 adjusted EBITDA margin was largely due to the impact of lower volumes in the aerospace and defense business within the IoT Dover business, as well as the flow through related to organic volume declines primarily attributed to China. Important to note that PST finished the full year at approximately 30% adjusted EBITDA margin despite the organic growth headwinds. I would also like to take a minute to review some key highlights within our IoT Dover business. In the fourth quarter, ILCLOVR Life Science business grew revenue double digits which demonstrated their continuing ability to deliver above market growth Also, I am pleased to announce that in December, we reached $150,000,000 plus multiyear agreement for our legacy space suit business. This long term deal has been incorporated in our 2025 guidance and we remain optimistic about opportunities for growth within the aerospace and defense business. For our PST innovation in action, we're highlighting a new DiaF metering pump which offers increased energy efficiency and 20% reduction in total cost of ownership.

This is a perfect example of innovation generating over $15,000,000 of additional market opportunities in key markets that include water and wastewater. Moving to Page 15, we're introducing our 2025 guidance. Total company revenue is expected to grow between 35%. We anticipate organic growth of 1% to 3% where price and volume are split 75%, 25%. FX is expected to be approximately a 2% headwind for the year. M and A is projected at $300,000,000 which reflects all completed and closed M and A transactions in 2024 as well as the acquisitions of SSI Aviation, and Excelsior Blower Systems discussed earlier. Corporate costs are planned at $165,000,000 and are expected to be incurred evenly per quarter throughout the year. Total adjusted EBITDA for the company is expected to be in the range of $2,130,000,000 and $2,190,000,000 At the bottom of the table, adjusted EPS is projected to fall within the range of $3.38 and $3.5 which is approximately up 5% the midpoint We anticipate our adjusted tax rate to be roughly 23% net interest expense to be about $220,000,000 and CapEx to be around 2% of revenue. On the right hand side of the page, we have included a twenty twenty five full year guidance bridge showing the growth associated with the operational activity and the impacts associated with FX, interest income and expense Thanks, Ray.

Corporate cost and share count. On the next slide, have provided some additional commentary regarding the phasing of our twenty twenty five full year guidance. So let me touch on a few key highlights. We expect total revenue growth to be consistent across both the first and the second half of the year at approximately 3% to 5%. Consistent with what we have seen over the past few years, we expect sequential improvement throughout the year with Q1 being the lowest quarter in terms of revenue. To put a finer point on Q1, we expect to see a very similar percentage decline in terms of revenue from Q4 'twenty four to Q1 'twenty five to what we saw in the prior year. But that should equal to is low single digit total revenue growth in the first quarter. The 2025 phasing of both our revenue and adjusted EBITDA remains consistent with prior years. And this is illustrated on the right hand side of the page showing both our historical revenue and adjusted EBITDA facing since 2021 and our assumptions for 2025. Finally, we expect adjusted EPS to follow the adjusted EBITDA phasing with a 46% to 54% split between the first and second half of the year. [indiscernible] Ingersoll Rand is well positioned for strong operational performance in 2025.

We remain nimble we're prepared to pivot in what continues to be a very dynamic global market environment. We continue to differentiate Esorama as an investment delivering double digit revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth on average since 2020. To employees, I want to thank you again for your part in delivering another record year.

We delivered strong results by demonstrating our commitment to meeting our financial targets and executing our economic growth engine through the use of IRX. Today, our balance sheet remains stronger than ever, and we enter 2025 well positioned to build upon our success to date. With that, turn the call back to the operator and open it for Q and A. Your first question comes from Mike Halloran with Baird. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning, Mike. Can we just talk a little bit about some of assumptions embedded in the guidance from a demand perspective? Essentially, how are you thinking about what the underlying demand cadence looks like through the year more qualitatively? Are you expecting any improvement in end markets, more stability Thoughts on how you think the orders play out this year and what kind of growth assumptions we're assuming as we move forward?

Yes, Mike. So kind of let me firm it this way. As we discussed in terms of total revenue phasing, we're expecting to look very quite similar to what we have seen historically. So if you think about the total revenue and EBITDA is consistent with prior years. From and then from an overall organic growth perspective, just as a reminder, price is approximately 70% of the total and we can clearly control that as you know. The other 25% is coming in from positive volume. And for that, we continue to be highly encouraged by the many growth initiatives that we're driving such as the unpenetrated region acceleration that we talked about, very specific targeted new product development and obviously our continued progress on recurring revenue When you think about these organic growth, it's expected approximately flat in the first half of the year. With approximately 4% growth expected in the back half of the year And again, of that 4% back half, organic growth, approximately half of that will be realized through pricing So we're just talking about a 2% organic volume in that second half. And as I said, a lot of good organic investments that we're driving And yes, comps also moderate in the back half of the year.

Which also helps In terms of the regional perspective, when you think about it from a from a high level growth assumptions at the regional level, America is planned to be in the upper end of the low single digits. Mainline Europe plant towards the lower end of the low single digits. China assuming completely flattish and then Middle East, India and the rest of Asia is assuming the mid single digit range.

Okay. And just a final point there, is there an assumption for end market improvement embedded in the guidance? Or is it relative stability from where we sit here today?

Relative stability from where we sit here today. [indiscernible] Okay. Thanks for that. And then on the PST side, can you maybe just talk a little bit about the the margins in the quarter? A little worse than we were expecting and how to think about that ramp as we work through this next year?

Yes. Sure, Mike. This is Vic. I'll take that one So in terms of within the quarter specifically, two major drivers that we point out. I think we called out kind of during the prepared comments. First is specifically lower volumes as we've kind of talked about within the ILC Dover Aero aerospace and defense business. So you had the deleveraging you saw there with the with the lack of volume largely coming from the lack of the large space suit contract and things of that nature that we've talked about historically. The other piece is the impact from the organic volume declines, which is I should the largest driver of that is coming from China. Now as we think about going forward, I think we remain quite optimistic about the long term margin profile and the ability to get to our kind of Investor Day targets of those mid-30s over time. When you think about the drivers, first and foremost, as you've seen historically, one, we expect to continue to remain price cost positive. Throughout every single quarter like you've seen historically. Two, we do have a pretty robust productivity funnel Three, I'd say there has been some targeted restructuring that has been done.

And then the other piece of the equation here is, as you would expect, now that we've kind of owned ILC Dover, for a little over six months, you typically see a lot of that margin expansion as we start a lot of the integration activities synergy activities, things like that really ramp into the, let's say, first year into the second year.

That's exactly what we're expecting to see as we move through 2025. So we would expect to see returning back to that 30% EBITDA margin profile as we progress through 2025. We feel pretty comfortable about the ability to control that margin profile going forward.

Thanks. Appreciate it guys.

Thank you. The next question comes from Julien Mitchell with [indiscernible] your line is open.

Hi, good morning. Good morning. Maybe good morning. Maybe just wanted to start with the [indiscernible] It seems that maybe they fell a touch light in Q4.

Versus what you had thought. Was that all related to China or anything else happening there? And when we're thinking about the first quarter, I think organic sales year on year are down low single digits or so, assuming a book to bill slightly above one for normal seasonality, Are we thinking sort of flattish orders just mechanically for Ingersoll year on year in Q1?

Yes, Julien. So to answer the first question, yes. I mean, it was basically primarily driven by China. China was a bit softer anticipated, driven largely by timing on a couple of large orders that kind of making the overall company organic order growth essentially flat. I think it's important to note that also in Q4 I mean China book to bill was actually approximately one, which is encouraging. And also when you compare the first half of twenty twenty four to the second half of twenty twenty four, for China in terms of orders China was basically essentially moving sideways, which speaks to some stability Also, as you heard, excluding China, we will have finished up low single digits in terms of organic orders in both segments. Which speaks to the continued resiliency across the other regions despite this ever changing dynamic environment. And I think looking forward, in respect to the timing of those large orders, I mean, they're not gone. They just kind of move sideways. We continue to see very good funnel momentum on these longer cycle projects, which is they just haven't converted yet. But as we kind of enter 2025, that kind of bodes well And the good news is the dialogue remains very, very active. On the orders front, I'll say don't guide on orders externally.

But as we've historically said, this is a business tends to be around one on a full year basis. And sitting here today, I don't think we see anything materially different than what we've seen historically on the seasonality front. That's helpful. Thank you. And then my second question, just wanted to circle back on PST. How you're sort of thinking about the EBITDA margin cadence through 2025? And sort of general satisfaction with the ILC Dover performance. Hey, Juane, maybe I'll start with the ILC and then let Vic talk about margin cadence. I mean, ILC is over continue to improve and do pretty well. I would say very, very happy with the Life Science businesses in LC Dover that we continue to see double digit revenue growth, which is line with expectations, but way above the market. We're also having a lot of very good cross selling and revenue synergy opportunity And I think the conversations go really well with some pretty large medical device customers that they're pulling us into conversation, not just as an IC Dover, but holistically as a total linguist around and that's that's a recent event that just happened here over the past couple of weeks and that's continuing exciting to see.

We've done a lot of work at ILC Dover including restructuring as Vic mentioned But now we're organized into three distinct P and Ls and that included also some new leadership in the P and L side. And this is a greater visibility and focus all around. Everything around the IRX implementation is going really well. Here at the end of the quarter. We're going to have another session around call commercial excellence execution, which is another tool that we have in our toolbox of IRX. So I'll say continue to pursue the good momentum and very happy to see the continued performance on the business.

Yes. And then, Julian, on the margin front, let me just take a step back and calibrate. When we did our Investor Day, we kind of said that PST we would approximately 100 basis points of margin expansion on an annual basis. And I think the reality and kind of what's baked in baked in the guide here is actually slightly better than that. If you look at the full year for PST, we finished at 29.6% EBITDA margin, obviously, slightly lower number than that here in Q4.

But as we now kind of transition into 2025 with a lot of the factors that Vicente said the integration on the IOC Dover side, we would expect to see, I'd say back kind of more in line with where you've seen to historically playing closer to that 30% range and sequentially improving obviously the easiest comp being in Q4 of next year?

Thanks very much. The next question comes from Jeff Sprague of Vertical Research.

Your line is open.

Hey, thank you. Good morning, everyone. I wanted to touch base on the aerospace and defense business, I think obviously you bought ILC Dover for the life science business and that makes sense right and space suits kind of came along for the ride. But at the time, you did indicate you like the business and may build and grow there. Seems like it's become more of a distraction than anything. So really my question is, would you actually commit additional capital to these aero and defense related business stuff in your pipeline, your funnel? That plays into this space?

Yes, Jeff. So as you recall, we always said that the aerospace and defense was kind of optionality And optionality both ways, one, clearly to learn more about the space economy and the relationship that strong relationship that ILC Dover that aerospace ad has with many customers in that industry And it has led to some kind of cross revenue synergies with some of our other compressor businesses like Haskell, selling helium blanketing for some of the rocket shipment or rocket ships. Now as we said, the kind of optionality to your question in terms of the M and A, do we have anything in the funnel for the S-two 727, the answer to that is no. Okay, great. [indiscernible] on the 400 bps to 500 bps of M and A impact, Just wanted to be kind of clear on that. So that's sort of excluding any wraparound effect from what you did in 2024. And would just be the annualized impact of what might get accomplished in 2025?

That is correct. Yes. So we're saying that that's 400 to 500 basis points is incremental to what we have in the guidance. Got it. Thank you.

The next question comes from Rod Wertheimer with Melius Research. Your line is open. Rob, perhaps your line is on mute.

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So sorry about that. So I think your comments on China were clarifying in that it doesn't seem like you experienced kind of a macro slowdown in the quarter, so rather order comps. But could you talk about China in a more general sense? It's been tough to call for a while now.

Yes, Rob, I think you kind of fit it away there for I think your question really is just talk about China and kind of what we see there. I think we see stability. I mean, when you look at the order rates first half to the second half, kind of fairly stable in the business. Also, when you kind of unpack China, there's some very good pockets of growth. I mean, we have some businesses like the blower and vacuum business that is actually growing organically at high single digits. So we're seeing that the investments we're making in kind of localizing some and some very targeted focus in some specific end markets it seems like the payback of those investments into positive organic growth in China. So that's kind of the good news. Think in China in 2024, clearly, we were coming into a year that we had some Very tough comps from 2023. I mean 2023 the China team were growing at a pretty accelerated pace, driven by electric vehicle investment, battery, solar, [indiscernible] obviously that did not reoccur in 2024. And so I will say that the three times that I spent in China last last year I could see progress in movement in terms of stability.

So I mean the only thing I'll add to that here Rob, is that as we said, we have been trying to also kind of pivot and reinvest a lot of our energy and organic investments outside of China.

And that's exactly what you're seeing with the commentary that we just made. I was just in Vietnam. I was in Australia as well. A few weeks ago.

And the momentum that we see in those countries based on the investments that we're making, it is very, very very exciting to see the teams push through the initiatives as we see some of the growth move away from China and into some of those regions. The next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz of Citigroup.

Your line is open.

Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Andy. It's interesting that you didn't speak about MQLs this quarter. Maybe you want to get away from that, but can you give us an update on how you're NPLs are looking? Last quarter, you mentioned they were still up 12% year over year, 7% sequentially, but that lead times at MQLs were getting extended. Have they extended further MQLs still up or maybe stepping back? How do you feel about your short cycle businesses outside of China?

Yes, no, good question there. Andy. And the NPL activity remains strong. And if finish the year up low double digit both in the fourth quarter and for the full year of 2024, So we continue to be encouraged by what we see on the MQL And I would say that as we kind of move here now, I would say also to that long cycle pipeline, as we talked about in the historically, but we did not verbally mention that here. I mean, the pipeline for that loan cycle it's also uploadable digits for the full year 2024, which is also very encouraging. So we're encouraged by the strong growth we saw in in those NQLs and loan cycle. Now clearly, we spoke before about the elongation of decision making and things are happening as fast as historically has been. That continues to be the case. I will also say that on a better news, the customer conversation activity has increased and we see better momentum of conversations happening and potentially turning into some decision making here as we move into 2025. So say that we continue to be encouraged and the other thing I will highlight is that I was also in Poland with our team in the demand generation center a few weeks ago and we have just an incredible talented team there that is taking this demand generation of creating the MQLs, they're taking it to the next level.

So Very helpful. And then just back to the PST margins for one second. I think we understand the margin improvement can be slowed by weaker organic. But a lot of times when a company does a lot of M and A, it's hard to integrate the acquisitions, margin improvement slows. You're already at 30%, which is high. So I think, Vic, you mentioned some targeted restructuring, but maybe any lessons learned in terms of a greater acquisition strategy as this was a larger deal for you? Do you approach acquisitions differently at all? Maybe you integrate differently because usually very good at integrating as you know? Yes, Andy. I think the simplest nothing of any that I would speak to specifically. We've had experience integrating larger assets. As per an example, the PST business, you had CPECS a few years ago and we were pretty explicit that that's fantastic differentiated technology, healthy gross margins, but the EBITDA margin profile was kind of in that let's call it mid teens area and we had to kind of glide path to get to kind of fleet average for PST and that's essentially where it's playing right now. As far as ILC Dover, I think obviously, yes, you've had some of the volume deleverage and things of that nature on the aerospace and defense side.

But I think in terms of the core integration, the ability to kind of as Vicente mentioned, kind of restructure the business, three distinct P and Ls, some new leadership there. Getting a little bit more streamlined. Absolutely, I would tell you from an integration and kind of a pure blocking intact perspective, the IOC Dover has really progressed on that end terms of our kind of core processes, utilizing IRX and then [indiscernible] point to that is really dramatically different from the ILC Dover perspective. And it's also worth noting the same can be said for, I'd say, the balance of the smaller bolt on that you saw in 2024 as well.

Appreciate the color.

The next question comes from Stephen Volkmann of Jefferies. Your line is open.

Great. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking the question. Sorry if I missed this. I know you talked about incrementals 45%, 50%.

Should we think about those pretty similarly Vic in both of the segments? Yes. Thanks, Steve. So I think the answer there is generally speaking, yes, I think there's maybe a little bit more opportunity on the PST side, particularly to get to the back half of 2025, just given kind of some of the margin comps you have. But generally speaking, I think they're in that comparable ballpark. That's correct.

Okay. All right. Thanks. And then, Andy, I think almost touched on the question that I was going to ask, but it feels to me like you have sort of two competing targets here, [indiscernible] PST, but also continuing to drive that hundred to 500 basis points of M and A. As you know well, these M and A margins often come in a little bit lower at at acquisition. And so it just feels like those two goals are kind of at odds with each other. And I'm curious if it's Vicente, how you sort of balance that as you think about hitting those PST margin targets in the mid-30s?

Yes. Greg, Christian, there's Steve. A couple of things I'll say not all acquisitions are margin decreed. I want to highlight maybe one in the PST segment called ADI. Which was a high pressure pump that we acquired a couple of years ago. And if you remember, we acquired a business that had like 50% EBITDA margins Today, it's at like 60% EBITDA margin. So I think it speaks to the power of what we can continue to do with good I mean great businesses that could solid margin that we can make them even better So I would say that we balance our M and A approach is based on the the quality of the business that we see from an end market perspective exposure that we can see high growth sustainable end markets with a margin profile that if it is not at that fleet average, we can continue to to improve. So I would say that good blend even in our funnel today, we have an M and A portfolio of companies could go into PSP that could look that are basically at a higher margin than the fleet average PSP. So again, it's a and I would say we look at that consistently and the fact is that not every business is going to be margin accretive.

Got it. Okay. So those seven LOIs, I should just assume or 50% EBITDA margin. The next question comes from Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley.

Your line is open.

Thank you. You mentioned a couple bigger projects in China pushing to the right in Q4. Do you think that this was related to The U. S. Election outcome and just the expectation that incremental tariffs are coming I mean just in that same vein, has customer conversations in China changed following the election?

No, great question, Chris. Specifically, these projects, no, they were not related to the election. This is I mean, when you are to China, I mean, China is becoming a pretty large from an EPC perspective engineering project and contracting companies. And it had to do with end user technical specifications and kind of more conversations as to these projects that that require some of our critical technology. So in those cases, it was not really to the election. In terms of overall have we seen anything further from China as related to the elections? I would say not dramatic.

And keeping in mind that January for China is kind of typically slow because of the Chinese New Year and things of that nature. But conversations with our team in China continue to be very positive as kind of they they think about what could happen here in 2025. But nothing that we have seen election wise related positive or negative?

Thank you. Appreciate that. And then maybe following up with one for Vic. It sounds like this year we're going to get that typical revenue step down into Q1. Usually that is accompanied by a sequential step down in March, Last year, we didn't get that. So it feels like the Q1 margin comp is maybe particularly difficult. Should we expect margins to be down year on year in Q1? Any color on that would be appreciated. Thank you.

Yes. Chris, let me start with your first comment in terms of and I think Vicente mentioned in our [indiscernible] The kind of normal sequential step down you see from Q4 to Q1, think you're going to see a very similar level that you saw kind of prior year. So I think that's completely fair. I think in the context of the margin profile, you're right. We kind of came into the year in 2020 for relatively quite healthy margins. I think that will be our stiffness comp. In the context of year over year. So should you expect to see meaningful margin expansion in Q1 No, I wouldn't say that. I would taper those expectations in that respect. I do think though as you progress through the year, and particularly as you get to the back half of the year and as I said earlier, clearly Q4, think that's where you'll continue to see the step up in margin. And I think the good news here is I think a lot of the same levers that have historically existed I mentioned before pricing, productivity, some of those targeted restructuring actions which have already kind of occurred, which means you can kind of see them go into the into the run rate, as well as some of the the M and A synergies are all going to kind of bear.

And then maybe the other piece to mention here we actually haven't mentioned yet is the progress on recurring revenue. We continue to be really pleased with the the trends that we're seeing across the board, we did see a nice pickup on recurring revenue kind of in line with expectations and as expected that comes with a bit of a margin premium.

So you are seeing that largely on the ITS side.

That is definitely helping I'd say on the mix side as well as the margin profile.

You. Appreciate that.

The next question comes from Nicole DeBlanc with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Yes, thanks. Good morning, guys. Good morning, Nicole. Maybe just continuing the tariff and election question. More from a cost perspective. I guess, can you guys talk a little bit about the exposure that you have whatever you're willing to provide as a person of cause with respect to Mexico, Canada, things that haven't been an issue before. And then any plans to offset what we've already seen with respect to tariff actions?

Yes, Nicole, great great question here. So let me just kind of start high level. First and foremost, let me just start by saying, there is actually nothing in our guidance sticks explicitly with regards to what I'll call incremental tariffs. Or any of the mitigation actions. As you know, the tariff situation remains pretty dynamic but we believe we're really well positioned, I think, to mitigate any of those impacts. So first and foremost, from an overall perspective, we're largely in region or the region from a manufacturing standpoint, which does insulate us a bit and limits the kind of the overall impact of tariffs compared to others. That being said, we're not immune to tariffs. Maybe to kind of size and I'll say, first of all, kind of the I'd say domestic U. S. Kind of purchases from China specifically, it's a single digit percentage. Of cost of goods sold. Right. So relatively muted, but there is a little bit of impact there. As you would expect, we have kind of what I'll call tiered mitigation plans ready to be executed. And they vary based on the severity of the tariffs. That does include, I'd say, leveraging our global supply chain to shift certain third party procured materials to alternate sources based on the level of tariffs.

And then as you would expect, the balance of tariff impact will be mitigated through pricing actions. Just kind of a little bit of a reminder, we faced a very similar situation back in the kind of 2021 timeframe soon after the merger. And you saw us, we were able to navigate those waters pretty well. We stayed both dollar and margin accretive and positive kind of throughout the duration. And so overall, we feel pretty good about our ability to manage through the tariff impact. And as you'd expect, we're continuing to monitor it pretty closely. So feel pretty good kind of where we sit right now, but relatively limited. And then specific to your question on Canada and Mexico, again, similar, fairly fairly small impacts, but again same kind of routine we're going through from a China perspective moving where needed and mitigating the balance through price.

Got it. That was super helpful. Thank you, Vic.

And then on PST, can we just talk about what you guys are seeing with respect to you talked a lot about like the ILC Dover Life Sciences business. What about the legacy Ingersoll Rand business? Are you seeing that continue recovery play out on the biopharma and life sciences side? Thank you.

Yes, Nicole, I'd say on that legacy Ingersoll Rand Medical business, fairly stable. I don't want to say that there has been or that we saw an acceleration here in the fourth quarter And so I'll say I'll call it out as being stable. And you can actually see it even also fairly stable as you kind of move sequentially kind of Q3 ish to Q4. So we'll see that as we kind of move into 2025. That's kind of a bit of a good news as we kind of of overcome a lot of those kind of tough comps. And clearly, we see and meet with a lot of our customers in that in that life science tool segment. Where the IR Medical business kind of participates and expect to [indiscernible] As we look into 2025, we don't have an expected V shape recovery in our guidance at all. For that business. We actually decided to keep it as in the same vein as fairly stable and kind of muted recovery.

Thanks, Vicente. I'll pass it on. Thank you. The next question comes from Nigel Coe of Wolfe Research. Good morning and thanks for the question.

We've been bouncing around the margin questions around PST, but one of the [indiscernible] be a bit more specific in terms of that path for PST margins back above 30%. And I'm wondering based on your 1Q comments about that Q over Q, do we sort of start the year at a similar level that 27%, 28% range and then ramp from there Any kind of first half, second half comments would be helpful. Yes, Nigel, I'll take that one. So think the expectation here is in whether it'd be first half or 1Q, I think it's a little bit better than the exit rate you saw in Q4? It's probably healthier than that, probably closer that upper 20s realm is kind of where you should expect BST in total to play. And then you'll see some kind of slight sequential ramp from there. So again, do we expect to see, like I kind of mentioned before, our Investor Day targets on a full year basis were approximately 100 basis points. We actually expect to be better than a little bit more kind of muted as we kind of begin the year. But should as frankly as the comp on ILC Dover kind happens mid year in June, you should see that kind of then be a bit of more of an inflection point back into the half of the year.

Okay. And then just maybe expanding on Nicole's question about the kind of what do you see in under the hood at ILC Dover? I think you called out double digit growth, 10% growth or something like that.

In the Life Sciences portion. What are you seeing in 2025? Maybe just dissect between A and D and Life Sciences 2025? For the Life Science, we continue to see continued momentum as we expect here. In terms of our kind of long term expectations of that low double digit to high single digit flows and that remains largely on track As we kind of sit here today, And that has to do due to the end market exposure the IFC, the Over Life Science side of the business is exposed to, which is kind of more of the biopharma as it relates to high potency APIs, which are then related to GLP-one as one example. Or also the gene therapy treatment, the personalized immuno treatments that are happening that we see also acceleration of that. So I think the ILCDOR is kind of what we like is that they're kind of exposed to some pretty good markets command a very good position on that side. Thank you.

The next question comes from Nathan Jones of Stifel.

Your line is open.

Good morning, everyone.

Maybe we could start with an update on some of the things you talked about last quarter. I think on some of these projects you were talking about tight capacity on engineering, site preparation, those kind of things holding back some of those projects moving forward. Maybe just start with an update on that?

Yes, Nathan. I would categorize it as I mean, not a dramatic change from free enough capacity Now, but I think the key thing that I do think it changed is I met with one of the customers, I think it was the December it's actually the December '20, and basically that customer spoke about that end the end user to this customer was basically releasing a lot of the procurement, which then translates into eventually getting some of these orders When I was in Australia, kind of similar thing, spent time with one of the customers that had one of those large projects and again same thing, he's just not getting canceled. But conversations are definitely happening more and more often. I'll say that that's kind of a dramatic or not a dramatic change, but the improvement is But is it now rapidly accelerating and everything kind of freeing up and going gangbusters? No, I mean that's not the case. But again, positive with the conversations and the fact that none of the projects have been canceled. As a matter of fact, some of them are kind of moving in the right direction.

I guess a follow-up question on that as it relates to U. S. Policy.

There's obviously been lot of noise around tariffs and what's happening and what's not happening. And uncertainty does tend to keep people's hands in their pockets when it comes to making capital investments. I think probably more outside of The U. S. Where that impact is unknown today, Is that kind of uncertainty around what U. S. Policy impact might be in places like China, Canada, Mexico, moving some of those projects a bit further to the right with that uncertainty, people sitting around kind of waiting to see what happens with with The U. S. Policy? [indiscernible] Not much has changed in terms of that. To be honest. And one of the data points that we track is clearly this NQA activity, which is like almost like a dynamic way to understand how their desire to purchase patterns and that has not changed. So and we watch that daily and weekly. And the continued momentum that we see on customers about trying to understand so they can make decisions that continue to be fairly robust as we even continue here So no, at least nothing of significance that we have seen that that The U. S. Policy is creating a movement one way or the other.

What do you need to see as a catalyst to get these decisions made and get these projects moving forward at a better rate? And thanks for taking my questions.

Yes, Clinton. I think it kind of varies project by project, to be honest. So I think it's difficult to kind of pinpoint to a specific [indiscernible] Mean, the customer that I made a reference here at the December things got released in that case because of some of the energy policies in The U. S. And the customer the end customer feeling more comfortable with the stance of the new administration. If I can talk about another EPC customer in Europe, a very large one, that the sole reason has been this capacity constraint of engineering and we continue to work with them. As a matter of fact, we actually are putting some of our engineers to help that customer to kind of get things moving But I will say it kind of varies various project to project or customer to customer.

Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you, Nathan.

The next question comes from David Rassel with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Hi, thank you very much. On the organic sales guide, you said 75% is going to be price, right? So 1.5% But then you alluded to the pricing in the second half of the year is going to be 2%.

So I was just curious the acceleration that you're expecting in pricing where are you seeing that? And is that a mid year price increase or something about the backlog and then you layering on maybe prices to start this year. Just trying to get a sense of why we see pricing accelerating as the year goes on? David, you hit it right on the head. You can attribute it to some of the midyear kind of pricing actions that typically happen. Now we don't we don't have one uniform date for every business in terms of when they take pricing actions. And in fact, given the environment, there have been many instances where you take multiple pricing actions for the course of the year. What I would attribute it to is, some of the planned in your pricing actions across the business. And the expectation of that kind of coming into the P and L. It's also worth noting that that phasing and kind of that expectation of a little bit healthier price the back half is actually a fairly consistent comment between both segments.

The next question comes from Andrew Basaglia of BNP Baharibah. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning.

I just wanted to focus on M and A. For a minute. You got this pipeline and kind of along the lines of the questions Nathan was asking, do you see a year setting up where some uncertainty might influence the types of deals that move forward As in do you see more kind of singles, doubles small deals rather than any sort of ILC Dover type acquisition moving across?

Yes, no, I'll say absolutely. I mean, I will categorize basically our pipeline to be more along the lines of the bolt on side in nature. And And clearly, we're leveraging the current geopolitical dynamic environment across the world as a way to continuously push this family owned companies to to move into a transaction. Like why keep worrying and and be in a situation where there's a lot of uncertainty. And that continues to to move pretty well. So yes, think about those companies in the funnel similar to the ones that we announced today on the prepared remarks, SSI Aireation and Excelsior. [indiscernible] Same kind of bolt on size in nature, great technologies, that continue to be purchased at a great multiple and provide incremental addressable market for us. Okay.

Yes. And as it pertains to Altice Dover, sticking with M and A, I know it's kind of like a new platform you intend to probably add on to. Are there deals in that kind of life sciences arena you see in that pipeline And then do you plan to get into kind of adjacencies with MedAssociable consumable selling to medtech maybe less so for life sciences application, but for other medical applications.

Yes. I'll send you, as a matter of fact, I mean some of the companies that we have in DLI, two of them are in the life science side of the business. And again, [indiscernible] and the very good additions as if they go through to the team. So that shows you how quickly we were able to gravitate and find some good transactions. In terms of adjacencies, I mean, we have a medical device kind of side of the business also on that ILC business.

Which we sell to MedTech to medical device companies. And is all around componentry. Highly specialized component. I think we talked about the silicon injection molding or silicon extrusion of componentry that is kind of highly specialized that can then get attached to a lot of our pump and then sell as a package. So I think more and more, yes, we have a funnel of companies that kind of look in that nature. Nothing in the LOI phase, but something some technologies that we're looking at.

Okay, got it. Thank you.

This concludes the question and answer session. I'll turn the call to CEO, Vincente Renaud for closing remarks.

Thank you, Sarah. I just want to say thank you all for your interest in Ingersoll Rand and a very special thanks to all of our employees who I know many of them are listening to the call and continue to think and act like owners that you are. Continue to drive another strong performance in 2025.

So with that, conclude the call and have a great day.

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