Vermilion Energy Inc. Price & Performance (VET)

And welcome to the twenty twenty five Annual General Meeting of the Shareholders of Vermilion Energy. My name is Myron Stadnik, And as Chair of the Board of Directors of Vermilion, it is my responsibility and privilege to act as the chair of this meeting. I welcome our registered shareholders proxy holders and all guests that are joining this meeting through our virtual meeting platform. We are excited to have your participation in the meeting, and thank you for your interest in the affairs of Vermilion. As per our custom, Vermilion acknowledges the traditional lands on which we work and live. We respect the histories, languages, and cultures of the indigenous people where we operate, and their continuing connection to the land, waters and community. And we pay our respects to elders past and present. I would now like to introduce the other independent directors of Vermilion, here with us today. [indiscernible] Karen Nickel, Steven Lark, William Roby, Manjit Sharma, and Judy Steele. I would also like to introduce Dion Hatcher, our President and CEO and Director and Lars Glemser, our Vice President and CFO. In addition, present on this call are members of our executive team. In terms of our agenda today, I will deal first with the formal business of the meeting as described in the circular.

Immediately following the formal business, Dion Hatcher will provide you with an overview of our business and strategy. A question period will then follow. As this meeting is being held virtually by a live webcast, I will now ask Tamar Epstein our General Counsel and Corporate Secretary to go over the procedures for the orderly conduct of this meeting.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will now review the procedures. Only registered shareholders and proxy holders who have properly logged in with their control numbers or username will be able to vote on the motions being brought forth or ask questions. Questions in respect of a motion can be submitted by any shareholder or proxy holder using the instant messaging service of the virtual interface. Questions will be forwarded to the chair shortly after they are submitted but will only be addressed if they relate to procedural matters or to the motions before the meeting. Questions which do not relate to procedural matters or to the motions before the meeting will be addressed during the question period at the end of the meeting. Questions which were already answered or that are redundant or repetitive will not be addressed and all matters will be conducted by electronic ballot. The polls have been opened by our scrutineers and registered shareholders and holders who have not already voted or who wish to change their votes may do so in each business item until the polls are closed following the press presentation of the formal business. If we encounter any technical Thank you, Tamar.

The meeting will now come to order. I will ask Tamar Epstein to act as Secretary and the representatives of Odyssey Trust Company to act as scrutineers. To ensure that this meeting covers all the business for which it was convened, within a reasonable amount of time, we have arranged for certain Vermilion representatives who are also shareholders to move and second certain motions. As mentioned, the polls are now open. And at this time, all registered shareholders and proxy holders who have logged in with their control numbers or username and wish to vote will be able to see on the screen all motions being brought forth. Please register your votes by selecting the four, or the withhold against button next to each item to be voted on. If a registered shareholder or proxy holder has already voted on all matters, there is no need to vote again. Unless you wish to change your vote on a matter. To my knowledge, the decision of the meeting will be in favor of each resolution to be considered. The scrutineer will compile a report regarding the voting [indiscernible] once all votes have been conducted and the polls have closed. I have received confirmation from Odyssey Trust Company that all materials in respect of the meeting were delivered to shareholders in compliance with the applicable securities requirements.

I direct that the affidavit together with copies of the documents delivered to the shareholders be filed with the minutes. I have been advised by the scrutineers that there is a quorum present at this meeting. Accordingly, I declare that this meeting is regularly called and properly constituted for the transaction of business. I direct that the scrutineer's report be filed with the minutes. The first item of business is to table the consolidated audited financial statements of Vermilion for the year ended 12/31/2024, and the report of the auditors thereon. A copy of these materials has been mailed to each registered shareholder who elected to receive such Any questions relating to the financial statements can be raised later during the question period. The next item of business is to fix the number of directors of the to be elected at eight. May I have a motion? Mister chair, my name is Kyle Preston, and I am a representative of Vermilion and a shareholder. I move that the number of directors of the company to be elected to be fixed at eight.

Mr. Chair, my name is Avril Schraben and I am a representative of Vermilion and a shareholder. I second the motion.

Thank you, Kyle and Avril. Any discussion?

As there is no further discussion, I will ask registered shareholders and proxy holders who have not already done so to cast their votes through the online portal. The next item of business is the election of the company's directors. As noted in the circular, the Board has adopted an advanced notice by law, which provides a procedure to be followed for the nomination of directors at shareholder meetings. There were no other nominations received within the requirements of the advance notice by law. Therefore, the only individuals entitled to be nominated as directors at this meeting are the persons named as nominees in the circular as directed by the Board. I will ask Ms. Schraven, our VP of People and Culture, and a shareholder to read the nominees.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

The following people are hereby nominated to act as directors of Vermilion. Myron m Stadnik. Dion Hatcher, James J. Klepner Junior, Karen S. Nicholl, Steven P. Lark, William B. Robie, Manjit K. Sharma, and Judy A. Steel.

I have a motion to elect Vermilion's director nominees as directors of the company?

Mr. Chair, I move that Vermilion's director nominees be elected directors of the company until the next Annual Meeting of Shareholders. Or until their successors are elected or appointed.

Mr. Chair, I second the motion. Thank you.

Any discussion? As there is no further discussion, I will ask registered shareholders and proxy holders have not already done so to cast their votes through the online portal. In accordance with the company's majority voting policy, we will conduct the election on an individual basis for each director. The next item of business is the appointment of the company's auditors. May I have a motion?

Mister chair, I move that Deloitte LLP be appointed auditors of the company until the next annual meeting of shareholders. Or until their successors are appointed. And that the directors of the company be authorized to fix their remuneration as such? Mister Chair, I second the motion.

Thank you. Any discussion? As there is no further discussion, I will ask registered shareholders and proxy holders who have not already done so to cast their votes through the online portal. The next item of business is the approval on an advisory nonbinding basis of the company's approach to executive compensation. May I please have a motion?

Mister Chair, I move that the related resolution as set out in the circular be a approved.

Mr. Chair, I second the motion.

Thank you. Any discussion? As there is no further discussion, I will ask our registered shareholders and proxy holders who have not already done so to cast their votes to the online portal. The final item of business is the approval of the unallocated entitlements under the company's omnibus incentive plan. May I have a motion for this item?

Mister chair, I move that the related resolution as set out in the circular be approved.

Mr. Chair, I second the motion. Thank you. Any discussion? As there is no further discussion, I will ask registered shareholders and proxy holders who have not already done so to cast their votes through the online portal. We will provide registered shareholders and proxy holders a few more moments to complete the electronic ballots before we close the polls. Once the electronic validating closes, the voting page will disappear and your votes will automatically be submitted. Odyssey, please close the polls. I would ask that the scrutineer now compile the report regarding the voting results. I have been advised by the scrutineers that greater than a majority of the votes cast at this meeting have been voted in favor of the resolutions. Accordingly, I declare all motions carried. I direct that the results of the poll be included with minutes and the results of the voting will be announced in a press release in accordance with the policies of the TSX and filed on SEDAR. As there is no further business to come before the meeting, I declare the formal part of this meeting concluded. Before turning it over to Dion Hatcher, our President and Chief Executive Officer, I'd like to extend my thanks to our management team and employees around the world for their dedication to Vermilion.

Dion Hatcher will now provide an update on our business and strategy.

Thank you, Meyer. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. We will now move to the informal part of our AGM, where I'll provide an update on our Q1 twenty twenty five results announced this afternoon and our outlook for the remainder of 2025 and beyond. As a reminder, this presentation can be found on our website under Invest With Us and Events and Presentations. Please refer to their advisory and forward looking statements at the end of the presentation. It describes the forward looking information, non GAAP measures, and oil and gas terms used today. It outlines risk factors and assumptions relevant to this discussion. Production for the first quarter increased 23% to just over 103,000 BOEs per day. Reflecting the close of the Westbrook acquisition in late February approximately one month of production contribution from acquired assets. Westbrook adds approximately 50,000 BOEs per day to our Deep Basin asset in Alberta. And future quarters will reflect the full contribution Integration of the Westbury acquisition is progressing ahead of plan. And post close, we have identified an additional $100,000,000 of operational and development synergies.

We generated $256,000,000 of fund flows in Q1 and $74,000,000 of free cash flow after investing $182,000,000 of E and D capital. We returned $37,000,000 to our shareholders in Q1, comprised of $20,000,000 in dividends and $17,000,000 in share buybacks. Our fixed quarterly dividend of $0.13 per share which has been increased four times since 2022, is resilient and remains well covered. Representing less than 8% of our forecasted fund flow. With the close of the Westbrook acquisition in late February, which was predominantly funded on the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with just over $2,000,000,000 of net debt. Or 1.7 times trailing fund flows, including Westbury. We have ample liquidity and tenure on the balance sheet and we have a plan to reduce debt both organically and through potential asset sales. In Q1, we launched a formal divestment process for our Saskatchewan and Wyoming assets. We have received very strong interest in these assets and are currently evaluating next steps. The first quarter was a very active quarter with several key milestones achieved. In addition to closing the Westbrook acquisition, we advanced infrastructure projects and reduced our DSET cost per well in the Mykononte. We brought on production our first deep gas exploration well in Germany, as well as proved out a large resource base with significant follow-up drilling opportunities.

Our international assets contributed 28% of our Q1 production, and 60% of our fund flows. While the majority of the capital was allocated to our global gas portfolio. One of the major advantages of Vermilion's globally diversified asset base their ability to harvest strong free cash flow from mature international assets and reallocate a portion to the earlier stage growth assets, which will contribute strong free cash flow in future years. The integration of the WestBrick acquisition is progressing ahead of plan we continue to identify synergies that will further strengthen the long term value of our larger more concentrated position in the Deep Basin. Vermilion now has over 1,100,000 net acres of land in the Deep Basin, with current production over 75,000 BUs per day. Making Vermilion one of the largest producers in this prolific region.

We are very pleased with the activities on the acquired Westbrook assets and to date, we have identified multiple operational and development synergies including longer laterals on planned wells, improved natural gas marketing opportunities, and infrastructure optimization. The company estimates the NPV-ten of these synergies to be approximately 100,000,000 and anticipates additional synergies may be realized as the acquired assets are further integrated. We made significant progress on our Montney development, during the quarter with the completion and tie in of the new ADA4 pad and the completion of the Phase II infrastructure expansion, which added compression and sales line capacity. The expansion was both ahead of schedule and under budget. Our long term development plan includes one more expansion phase to reach our targeted capacity of 28,000 views per day of production by 2028. Which will then translate to annual free cash flow of approximately $150,000,000 at $3 AECO. This will then be supported by over fifteen years of stay flat drilling inventory once we reach that targeted rate. We've achieved a new cost milestone of $9,000,000 per well on the eight zero four pad. This cost is at the lower end of our previously stated targeted cost range, comparison to the prior pads at $9,600,000 per well.

The team has done a tremendous job improving the drilling and completion efficiencies through batch drilling, reduced water handling, completion and flowback optimization, and standardizing equipment designs. We believe these desec costs are repeatable and could potentially go lower as further are realized. A $600,000 savings per well is material when applied to hundreds of drilling locations. Considering the full future development of our Montney asset, this cost saving would amount to approximately $100,000,000 reduction our future development costs or an MPV-ten of approximately $50,000,000 In Germany, we are in the early stages the exploration program on our significant land base. We have approximately 700,000 net undeveloped acres with a large portion of this land covered by three d seismic. The zones of interest are very similar to The Netherlands where we have successfully drilled wells for two decades. To date, our technical team has progressed nine discrete targets of which we have drilled three with positive results. With success, we see up to 30 locations between exploration and follow-up development, which represents a decade of drilling two to three wells per 70% that we achieved in The Netherlands. Results to date continue to validate our subsurface models and execution plans.

Our team will continue to progress promising prospects across our land base, which we expect will provide strong organic growth in our Germany gas portfolio. The tight curve information provided shows the size of the prize for these prospects.

We are targeting. These wells are deep, and high pressure and therefore more expensive than a typical well in North America. But with a net present value of $60,000,000 and an F and D of approximately $1.5 Canadian per Mcf, for premium price European gas. These are some of the most impactful wells in our portfolio. As reported in early March, we successfully tested the Vissile Horse deep gas exploration well that is a 64% working interest well. It was at a restricted combined test rate of 41,000,000 per day from from both zones. Team is advancing debottlenecking options to optimize production due to this very high deliverability. We also completed facility and tie in operations on the Oster well, which is 100% working well during Q1. And brought that well in production at the end of the quarter. Since the start up in April, the well was produced at a restricted rate of approximately 7,000,000 per day of gas or 1,200 BOEs per day.

Which is above the original constraint expectations due to the ongoing debottlenecking activities. We completed drilling operations on the third Decas exploration well. Bisamore South, during the first quarter and encountered over 15 meters of net gas charged poor sand in the Rocklegan formation. Tested the well in March, but did not achieve expected flow rates. This well has been suspended for the time being while we evaluate options to improve deliverability. We are very pleased with the overall results of our 2024 Deep Gas Exploration Program.

Which exceeded our expectations. From the initial nine structures the team has identified to date, we have drilled three wells and proven up 85 BCF or 60 Bcf net of reserves from these first two wells. As mentioned earlier, we recently brought an Osterhive well in production at the end of Q1 and using our current operating netbacks, that well is generating approximately $2,000,000 per month of fund pull. We expect production to moderate through the summer months due to the seasonal demand in the area, before increasing later in the year with winter demand. The Vissile Horse well is expected to come on production in the first half of twenty twenty six at a restricted rate of approximately 800 BUs per day and then increase to 3,000 BUs per day by 2027 and six thousand BUs per day gross by 2028. As we debottleneck the throughput capacity. At these restricted rates, the 1.6 net wells are expected to produce approximately 27,000,000 cubic feet per day of gas or 4,500 pus a day net to Vermilion. And generate annual fund flows of approximately $19,000,000 at current euro gas prices. After tax, net present value over an exploration program including the cost of all three wells, and debottlenecking is approximately 150,000,000 or $1 per share.

As noted in the Q4 release, the Visselhorst well is our largest discovery in over a decade. More importantly, the discovery well sits in the middle of a structure, with the potential to drill up to six more wells. Our midpoint estimate for this structure is three eighty BCF gross of gas in place, That equates to approximately two forty BCF of gas in place net to Vermilion. In addition to the follow-up Vissile Horse wells, the team continues to mature future drilling plans on multiple prospects that have been identified. As a result, we see the potential to double our 2P European gas reserves with a Deep Gas Exploration Program. It is early days in the development of this long life, high margin asset. That is expected to add meaningful free cash flow in the years ahead. Our 2025 budget and guidance remains unchanged. Although we are closely monitoring the outlook. Our capital program will continue to be focused on our global gas assets with continued investment in the Montney, the Deep Basin and the Germany gas program. We are focused on adding net asset value per share as noted with the recent results in Germany, our reduced MICHA per well costs, and the Westbrook synergies.

Which combined represents approximately $300,000,000 of PV-ten, That equates to $2 a share of incremental value. We will continue to prioritize debt reduction with 60% of our excess free cash flow allocated to debt reduction. And 40% return to shareholders in the form of dividends and share buybacks. With the Westbrook assets, we are currently producing around 135,000 BUS per day and expect q two q two production to be in the 3,436,000 viewers per day range. The recent market volatility resulting the global trade war has had a negative impact on commodity prices and has increased the risk of a global economic slowdown. Vermilion is well positioned to manage through this cycle with over 50% of our production hedged for the remainder of 2025 combined with approximately $1,000,000,000 of liquidity, and no near term debt maturities. Furthermore, our globally diversified asset base provides a natural hedge by minimizing our exposure to any single commodity and provides flexibility to allocate capital to our highest return projects. With our financial position and unique market advantage, we are confidently navigating this business cycle with diligence. Our thorough review of remaining capital projects for 2025 has revealed opportunities to defer certain projects if needed.

Without having a material impact on the 2025 production. We will continue to closely monitor our investment activity and adjust accordingly to prioritize our balance sheet. In addition, as noted earlier, we are evaluating next steps on the potential divestment of our Saskatchewan and Wyoming assets. These divestments would significantly accelerate debt reduction and would reduce capital requirements. As is our standard practice, we update our financial forecast each quarter based on the current strip pricing. By factoring in our current hedge book. At this time, we are forecasting twenty twenty five annual fund flows in the 1,000,000,000 to $1,100,000,000 range, with over $300,000,000 of free cash flow flow. Our quarterly dividend of $0.13 per share equates to approximately $80,000,000 which is less than 8% of our forecasted fund flow. Our CapEx and dividend are more than fully covered at the current price pricing, while there remains excess free cash flow in the system to fund ongoing share buybacks. As I mentioned, we are also well positioned with over 50% of our twenty twenty five production hedged approximately 30% of our twenty twenty six production hedged. We will continue to add these hedges opportunistically where we're able to lock in prices that support our capital allocation priorities.

We have made several strategic investments over past few years, including the acquisitions in Montney, Deep Basin and European Gas. Along with the ongoing strategic capital investments in these areas. All these initiatives have been geared towards and our global gas portfolio and increasing our value per share. Through these strategic investments, we are now the fourth largest producer in the Deep Basin, with long life inventory that will support growth to over 80,000 BOEs per day. And then with fifteen years of inventory, once we hit that target rate. In the Montney, we have built out the majority of our strategic infrastructure that will support the long term production of 28,000 bees per day again, with over fifteen years of inventory at that point. Germany, we successfully executed a three well deep gas exploration program making a significant discovery that will add meaningful reserves and support future development with the potential to more than double our Germany production base. Combination of these strategic initiatives further enhances Vermilion's profile as a global gas producer. Resulting these efforts is increased operational scale with 80% of our production, and 70% of our capital investments into our global gas portfolio. While the oil assets in our portfolio remain profitable, our focus continues to shift to our global gas portfolio which we believe has several advantages.

With over $100,000,000 a day of gas production, in Europe, we get direct exposure to premium prices, which drives the highest realized gas prices among our peers. We achieved this exposure without the need for multi decade take or pay commitments. Our international assets are also conventional, and have lower decline rates relative to North American gas plays. Therefore, they require less capital to maintain production, which contributes to the strong free cash flow profile of these assets. Addition, we are uniquely positioned to consolidate and grow our European gas portfolio with acquisitions as the majors look to the best.

Our North American gas portfolio is comprised of concentrated liquids rich gas assets in the Deep Basin and Montney, which provide a track short cycle returns and allow flexible capital allocation. We are seeing the benefit of our increased operational scale with reduced E and D capital and ongoing operational cost synergies. On the macro side, we expect global gas demand to continue growing for decades and believe our global gas portfolio provides a foundation to support the company's long term profitability. Well, that concludes our prepared remarks. With that, we'd like to open it up for questions.

So the first question here that we have is can you provide more details on the Vissile Horse wells and future debottlenecking plans What are the infrastructure requirements? What is the cost? And what is the timing?

Yeah. Thanks for that question, Kyle. Our our first priority on this this first fiscal horse well is to get the well equipped and tied in. We expect that to complete with initial production expected in the first half of twenty twenty six. We have received approval for and have ordered all major long lead items for the required gas processing facilities at the site and have acquired pipeline right away for the initial tie in location into the local gathering infrastructure, which is about two kilometers away. We have several different tie in options for this well with differing production restrictions. Initially, we expect to be constrained to a flow rate of about 5,000,000 standard cubic feet a day with options to debottleneck this to 17 and a half million cubic feet a day with a second phase pipeline in 2027 for which we've begun initial environmental screening. And then to 35,000,000 a day with expansion of the gas processing capacity in 2028. Secondly, we anticipate that there is up to six appraisal follow-up locations on this structure. We've initiated regulatory activities on these locations and expect to spend the first of these wells in the q one twenty twenty seven.

Thanks, Darcy, for that. Mean, just to summarize and ties back to our earlier common in my opening remarks there. When you add all that together with just the wells that we drilled to date, that equates to $27,000,000 a day of natural gas premium price European gas. And to put that in perspective, Vermilion today is producing about 100,000,000 a day. All across Europe. And so that's why we're so excited with this European German program where this 1.6 net wells can add 27,000,000 a day of gas. And, of course, we would look to grow that as we look to drill future wells. And build upon that success. But, you know, thanks for the details there. Lots of moving parts, but the team's great. Great job of of moving that forward.

Back to you, Kyle. Yep. Thanks, Dion. So we have another question here. What is the current production from the Westbrook assets you acquired can you provide more details on the synergies? What part of the cost structure they're coming from? And what should we expect for an annual cost savings?

Thanks, Kyle. I'll just pass it over to Brandon McQuadar, VP of North America. Thanks, John. So yes, our production from the Westbrook assets came in around 52,000 barrels a day for Q1. And we expect the full year production to average around 50,000 barrels a day for 2025. So coming in as planned. In terms of the synergies, as Deanna mentioned, we have identified about $100,000,000 of NPV synergies since closing the Westbrook acquisition in late February. Most of the immediate savings are operationally focused and related to structural changes in the business where we have reduced processing fees. We've optimized our production and marketing along with identified operating cost reductions. These have directly resulted in about $5,000,000 a year of identified savings and expect to increase as we continue to evaluate further upside. Another portion of the synergies that we speak to are the are development related, and they come from the ability to drill extended reach wells with the combined legacy Vermilion and the Westbrook lands that increase the NPV on the Vermilion portion of these wells. This value would be achieved over time as we continue the development of these assets. So overall, we can expect to achieve around $10,000,000 a year in should increase over time as we integrate the assets and evaluate further upside potential.

Thanks, Randy. Just to build on that, I mean, spoke at the last call, and we're really excited with the quality of the Westbrook asset and, I think, you know, how complementary they are to Vermilion's land based on infrastructure. Infrastructure. And, you know, we're real the more we work these assets, the more excited we get, and we're seeing these synergies. And to Randy's point, I think we're done yet. Given the great work that the teams are doing. But back to you, Kyle.

K. Yeah. We do have another question here. Why has executive comp increased when the stock is underperforming? And what are you doing to address share price underperformance?

I'll take that one, Kyle. I mean, good question and again, it's a lot lost on myself or the management team, the stock performance most recently. I'll start with the executive compensation As a reminder, a significant portion of the executive comp is what we call at risk compensation. Meaning that it's directly linked to the corporate performance as well as the stock performance For me personally as a CEO, over 80% of my company is at risk, and and, again, that's appropriate given my role What that means, if you look at the realized actual compensation 2024, it was down 13% year over year, and again that is largely due to the impact of stock performance The only other thing I would note is we did engage a third party firm to come in and review our compensation program. To compare it with our peers. I would say there's modest adjustments as a result of that. Just to kind of tweak some of the individual comp based on what is the comp for that role in industry. So we get directly tied to the performance of the company and we brought in some external review and then finally ISS and Glass Lewis have voted both yes.

For our pay programs as well, which is another vote of confidence. Back back to the stock question itself, I guess two per answer here. If you think about the year, we started quite strong. We started the year with I would say, outperformance relative to our peers, and that was on the back of the Westbrook Act acquisition. Again, we are excited to have that high quality, long life, complementary asset base that gives that operational scale that we've been looking for in the deep basin. And so stock was doing quite well. We then entered a period of market volatility, and I would describe it as a risk off period with Liberation Day and tariffs. And I think what you see during those periods is companies that have elevated debt relative to their peers underperform, and we definitely saw that in there's been quite a bit of weakness most recently and I think that's really short term in focus given our elevated debt level.

As stressed on the call, you know, hopefully, it came across loud and clear that we have we're on track with our volumes. Westbrook looks well. We're excited about Germany. We have overbilling of liquidity. We have no near term debt maturities. Our dividend is well covered. We're well hedged, and all that means we have the means and the plan to organically reduce our debt. In addition, we've got a number of options to reduce capital, which would further reduce near term debt. And, of course, we talked about the potential divestments and we're excited with the there, and that would materially accelerate debt reduction.

So it's again, it's a focus of the management team in the short term. It's it's reducing debt, and we've got a strong robust plan to happen over the upcoming quarters. Just to finish out then, if you zoom out, I think big picture, hopefully what our shareholders are seeing is the strategic focus to improve the business. So we're transitioning to a global gas producer one with long life assets, one with high quality inventory, one with a lower cost structure. And I think these long life assets will really underpin these new streams of free cash flow that are coming into the business that we would have talked about on the call. So long winded way of saying, you know, we comp is is linked to to core performance. Of course, it is. Short term. We're focused on debt reduction. Big picture, we're focused on the high grading asset base, which is making us a stronger company with long life assets.

Thanks, Dion. There's no further questions [indiscernible] Okay. But there's no further questions. I want to first of all thank our staff all the contractors that work for us throughout the organization. We're very fortunate to have such a strong workforce day in, day out These milestones that we talked about are only achieved due to the hard work for our employees So I wanna sincerely thank them for that. And in conclusion, thank you everyone for participating in our twenty twenty five AGM. And the conference call today.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating. And ask that you please disconnect your lines.